“Getting them to make as much money as they did and getting them paid. he author of a new book on legendary Zeppelin manager Peter Grant. I think that was the case with Peter. It was a story that first surfaced in public on Frank Zappa’s live album, Fillmore East – June 1971, which contained a humorous ditty called The Mud Shark. It was dead. People were scared of him and he made a lot of money for himself and his band with that combination. In it, the band’s road manager, Richard Cole, says that he and John Bonham caught a number of fish from the window of their hotel room (the Edgewater being directly situated on Elliott Bay). I think that required some delicate handling over the years. The groupie’s name was Jackie. the legend of the mud shark holds that the band was staying at the Edgewater Inn atop Seattle’s Puget Sound. Sign up for InsideHook to get our best content delivered to your inbox every weekday. BA1 1UA. Copyright © 2021 InsideHook. “It did happen,” Blake told RCL. Cole’s assertion that the groupie loved it – “It was nothing malicious or harmful, no way!…She might have been hit by a shark a few times for disobeying orders, but she didn’t get hurt” – doesn’t make it any more palatable. He talked his way into the music business. (Photo by Ian Cook/The LIFE Images Collection/Getty Images), Peter Grant, English music manager, who managed the Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin and Bad Company, Eastbourne , United Kingdom, 1994. “I started doing these weekly radio shows in the States a few years ago,” Appice explains. The story has not been confirmed or denied by Zeppelin and various versions have been released, but Vanilla Fudge drummer Carmine Appice has described his account with the following story. But there’s a huge amount of luck involved.”. Of all the stories Beaujour and Bienstock heard while conducting interviews for the book, the gold star goes to the tale of Ozzy Osbourne snorting a crawling line of ants off the ground then peeing nearby and licking it up while on tour with Mötley Crüe in 1984, an account that is told with the same reverence as an anecdote about Led Zeppelin, a mud shark and a female fan from the ’70s. This article was featured in the InsideHook newsletter. Richard and Bruce were doing their thing, with Mark trying to film it, but the rest of us filtered out into the hallway, laughing our asses off.”, Appice, looking back, points out that “you have to understand that those days were so different. The incident was revisited by Cole in his own book, 2002’s Stairway to Heaven: Led Zeppelin Uncensored: “Word about the escapade spread quickly. They weren’t all in the same suites or on the same floor. Sometimes that happens when you’re confronted with such a freaky scene. Led Zeppelin's Mud Shark. “But these things happened,” Gittenb says. Led Zeppelin were an English rock band formed in London in 1968. It was a really crazy time, birth control pills were just coming out and, politically and socially, everything was different.”. The gathering was swiftly gatecrashed by the boisterous party from next door, namely Cole, Stein, Zep roadie Clive Coulson and Fudge road manager, Bruce Wayne. And awesome. The whole affair gathered traction in the mid ‘80s with the publication of Stephen Davis’s unauthorised Zeppelin biography, Hammer Of The Gods. The original group decided to take their leave when Cole and Wayne shoved the thrashing animal inside her. New book exposes the debauchery of Led Zeppelin guitar god Jimmy Page. From left to right: John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, John Bonham, and Robert Plant. According to Appice, he’d hooked up with the girl a day earlier, during which time she’d performed oral sex on him in his limo. Sign up below to get the latest from Classic Rock, plus exclusive special offers, direct to your inbox! “The reality was usually far worse though. A former bit-part actor, wrestler, cab driver, and nightclub bouncer, Grant was, at least at that time, a man who could regard a situation like that as normal. The following afternoon she called in at John Paul Jones’s room at the Edgewater, where Jones, Appice, Vanilla Fudge bassist Tim Bogert, plus Plant and wife Maureen, were hanging out. Led Zeppelin and the mud shark incident. Bath Exactly how is a matter for grim speculation only. He was an ordinary man who led an extraordinary life.”. Sign in with Facebook Peter said he was checking out one of the rooms once and he walked in and could hear a noise coming from the bedroom.”. There was so much money going through that band. Much of the mythology surrounding this drama is down to the fact that Cole has a reputation for bending the truth for the sake of a juicy yarn. Led Zeppelin was Jimmy Page’s band. The truth is as bad as the fiction – or worse.”, “One of the things I got hold of was Peter in a hotel room talking about his life for a proposed film,” Blake said. People didn’t want their cash cow to end.”. Mark Stein claimed to have passed on the film to Bruce Wayne, after which it disappeared. The group consisted of vocalist Robert Plant, guitarist Jimmy Page, bassist/keyboardist John Paul Jones, and drummer John Bonham.With a heavy, guitar-driven sound, they are cited as one of the progenitors of hard rock and heavy metal, although their style drew from a variety of influences, including blues and folk music. Let’s face it, you’ve got to be either the woman or out of your mind to make that claim. (Da Capo Press), AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS – circa 1970: English music manager Peter Grant (1935-1995) (managed Led Zeppelin and Bad Company) posed in Amsterdam, Netherlands circa 1970. “Let’s say you were a travelling rock‘n’roll band called The Vanilla Fudge / Let’s say one night you checked into the Edgewater Inn with an 8mm movie camera,” narrates Zappa, before going on to describe “a succulent young lady with a taste for the bizarre.” The song then bursts into a chorus promoting ‘The Mud Shark’ as a new dance craze set to sweep the nation. Robert Plant and John Bonham were not as experienced as Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones and it certainly took some of Peter’s negotiating skills to mediate between them all.”. “But what Carmine has done is give it complete chapter and verse. . There was a problem. He made sure the band got paid and later on did lots of work negotiating with ticketing agencies. Rumours circulated that the girl had been raped…that she had been crying hysterically…that she had pleaded for me to stop…that she had struggled to escape…that a shark had been used to penetrate her. All rights reserved. How did Grant manage the egos of the different members of the group? According to the legend of the shark episode, Led Zeppelin then proceeded to stuff pieces of shark into her vagina and rectum.”. He was very good at keeping them away from the media. Peter had to keep both of them happy and the other two as well.”. How Led Zeppelin invented ‘heavy music’... Piss bottles and cow eyes: Motley Crue remember 1984, Counting Crows are back with a new single and a butter-themed EP, Greta Van Fleet hit back at Gene Simmons in ‘Rock is dead’ debate, Stevie Nicks originally wanted nothing to do with the Tom Petty song that launched her solo career, ‘I don’t blame Iron Maiden for getting rid of me’, says Paul Di’Anno. Led Zeppelin early in their career. Blake continued: “He said, ‘What are you doing here?” She said, ‘I don’t know, but guys keep coming in and f–king me.’ He said, ‘Ok, are you alright and she said ‘Oh yeah, I’m fine.’ He told her to have a nice day and walked out. Were you surprised by anything while researching the book? Following their performance at the 1969 Seattle Pop Festival, the members of Led Zeppelin retired to the Edgewater Inn, a hotel on the Puget Sound that allowed its guests to fish from their windows. “You had four people in Led Zeppelin, very different characters, two of whom were far more experienced in touring and recording than the other two. About “Mud Shark” This song describes an incident involving the band Vanilla Fudge and members of Led Zeppelin and a fish at the Edgewater Inn in Seattle, Washington in 1969. When Bonham died the band said they weren’t going to continue but there was enormous pressure from other people, not Peter, and the record company for them to go on. One of the perks of staying there was that guests had the option to fish off their balconies into … I suspect the other two understood and somewhat knew their role in the band. You’d be given a bag of cash and if the promoter asked for money back at the end of the night because of low attendance, bands, in the past, had accepted it. “I didn’t realize the extent of the greed and the backstabbing that went on towards the end of Led Zeppelin. It’s a testament to the salacious appeal of ‘The Mud Shark Incident’ that it’s already elicited plenty of column inches in the American tabloids. Also known as the Mudshark Incident, the " Shark Episode " is a purported sex video that was allegedly shot during July 1969, in Seattle, Washington, in the Edgewater Inn, located right on Elliot Bay. There are many conflicting versions of the event, but the basics are pretty consistent. I was surprised by how greedy some people became. While some have called that description of the incident a bit fishy, the author of a new book on legendary Zeppelin manager Peter Grant, Bring It On Home: Peter Grant, Led Zeppelin, and Beyond–The Story of Rock’s Greatest Manager, Mark Blake, told RealClearLife the account is generally true. What was Grant’s greatest asset as a manager? We try and get to the bottom of one of music's most infamous tales. “A pretty young groupie with red hair was disrobed and tied to the bed,” Stephen Davis wrote in Hammer of the Gods. “She got so into it, and it was so shocking to us, that we all started hysterically laughing. Introduced to the masses in the 1985 Led Zeppelin biography Hammer of the Gods, the legend of the mud shark holds that the band was staying at the Edgewater Inn atop Seattle’s Puget Sound. And a fair few over here. There was a power struggle between Page and Plant. He wasn’t the ogre he portrayed himself as.”. The rest shall be left to your imagination. A lot of bands in U.S. and UK didn’t make a lot of money; their manager did. None of the stories was true.”. Most F YOU DAD Brats will grow out of their neurotic compulsion to get back at their emotionally absent or psychologically weak white beta fathers through the weaponized psy ops of black boyfriends, but some will stick it out to the mudshark monocle end. He can remember things in excruciating detail and is an unusually fertile source. The legacy of what he achieved continues now.”. And anything related to the band had to go through Peter first. “We had the door open and there were so many people in the room when it was happening, but she didn’t care,” Appice tells Classic Rock. He was sitting right on the side of the bed while it was going on and he wanted to share it. She actually spoke to my friend, the DJ on the morning show. More notorious than all the Led Zeppelin legends put together the story, as it’s told, begins in America’s Pacific North West at … It took place at Seattle’s Edgewater Inn in July 1969 where the band members of Led Zeppelin and Vanilla Fudge allegedly defiled a groupie with a mud shark caught outside their window. One of the perks of staying there was that guests had the option to fish off their balconies into the water below. into Elliott Bay. It wouldn’t be now for all sorts of reasons.”. I think they belonged in a certain place and it was the late 1960s. a marvellous little arpeggio, and now the mating call of the adult male Mud Shark . Ozzy Osbourne had his bat, Pink Floyd had their pig, and Led Zeppelin, at least according to legend, had their mud shark. But she said she had moved to Alaska, raised a family, and lived happily ever after.”, As Appice writes in his book, “I wish her well. (Classic Rock) 09 June 2016, Times may have changed, but our enthusiasm for salacious rock'n'roll stories remains undiminished. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. Out You go out (Catch the Mud Shark) So far out You do the Mud Shark, ... General CommentBased on a true story involving Led Zeppelin's road manager (there may have been a couple of members of the Vanilla Fudge present, but only as spectators), a groupie and a freshly-caught fish. He doesn’t have a clear memory of it and he’s prone to exaggeration.”. “Some of those stories just aren’t true or are partially true,” Blake said. Forgot your password? “And the fact that attitudes have changed doesn’t mean that what happened in the past goes away. He was there along with a couple of members of Vanilla Fudge. © Led Zeppelin, the groupie and a mud shark It’s easy to get caught up in the modern era of rock and roll and find it a little tame, a little clinical, perhaps even a little boring. The whole thing of not appearing on television and not releasing singles was absolutely unheard of then. It was almost industry standard to scam the bands and he changed that. “Richard Cole told me it happened and he was the guy that held the shark. Grant opened the door to check it out and, lo and behold, there was a naked woman chained to the bed by her ankles and her wrists. And awesome. The whole affair gathered traction in the mid ‘80s with the publication of Stephen Davis’s unauthorised Zeppelin biography, Hammer Of The Gods. Were Led Zeppelin really involved? (Photo by Brad Elterman/FilmMagic), KNEBWORTH, ENGLAND – AUGUST 01: (L-R) Manager Peter Grant with Led Zeppelin lead singer Robert Plant and bass guitarist John Paul Jones at Knebworth House. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer, Five years earlier: The Beatles fishing from the windows at Seattle’s Edgewater Inn. Sign up now. He was talking about the groupies and he said that when the band booked hotel suites, they would book more than they needed as a way of avoiding people who were looking for them. Peter also had to deal with negotiating and handling him delicately as well. Louder is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. How did he deal with Plant and Page specifically? It’s free. a marvellous little arpeggio, and now the mating call of the adult male Mud Shark . To help shed some light on what gave Grant his legendary status and made him so instrumental to Zeppelin’s success, Blake answered a few more questions. The Mud Shark An underground legend that went public with Frank Zappa's toss-off reference to it in "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" ("destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology! Vanilla Fudge singer Mark Stein supposedly filmed the entire thing on a Super 8 camera. “A friend of mine, [latterday Cactus bassist] Randy Pratt, bought the film – or was told that it was the film – and there was nothing there. Carmine Appice, legendary drummer for Vanilla Fudge, Cactus, Rod Stewart and others, reveals the truth behind what has become popularly known in Zeppelin lore as ‘The Mud Shark Incident’ in his just-published memoir, Stick It! After all that madness on the road with Led Zeppelin, he lived the last few years of his life very peacefully and very quietly. The song then bursts into a chorus promoting ‘The Mud Shark’ as a new dance craze set to sweep the nation. There was no other way to see or hear them. Members of Led Zeppelin once employed a mud shark on a female groupie. It was all peace and love and women walking around with no bras and see-through blouses. “His management style was very hands-on. Rock drummer Carmine Appice co-wrote a No. “Led Zeppelin then proceeded to stuff pieces of shark into her vagina and rectum.”. Smashing, crashing, and bashing their fame on the walls of some poor Inn-keep’s walls. There was something quite dignified in that. Most of the details are too controversial to recount here, but we can tell you that in 1973, the band was officially banned from staying at the hotel after it was discovered they had caught roughly 30 mud sharks from their guest room window and disposed of beds, TVs, lamps, etc. He died young [at 60] but he wasn’t trying to relive the life he’d had earlier. It was too old, he couldn’t develop it or do anything with it.”, There is an interesting, vaguely redemptive postscript to this entire business. No matter how many women and drugs and money they get, it’s just ordinary people who have extraordinary lives. In the unauthorised Zeppelin biography Hammer Of The Gods, author Stephen Davis wrote: “ A pretty young groupie with red hair was disrobed and tied to the bed. That kind of sums up the attitude at that time and some of what was taking place on the road. “Whorephobia” Is a Real Word. The year is 1969 and Led Zeppelin are hanging out at the Edgewater Hotel in Seattle, bored out of their minds. While staying at Seattle’s Edgewater Inn in July 1969 (having shared a bill at the Seattle Pop Festival), members of Led Zeppelin and Vanilla Fudge, and their respective entourages, are alleged to have pleasured a willing groupie with a fish caught from the local bay. Introduced to the masses in the 1985 Led Zeppelin biography Hammer of the Gods, the legend of the mud shark holds that the band was staying at the Edgewater Inn atop Seattle’s Puget Sound. 1 song, Rod Stewart’s Da Ya Think I’m Sexy; played with everyone from Jeff Beck to Pink Floyd; befriended his idol, drum legend Buddy Rich; and even, to hear him tell it, influenced Led Zeppelin. “One time we were talking about Fairbanks, Alaska, and this person called up claiming to be the woman. DRUMMER CARMINE APPICE RECOUNTS THE INFAMOUS LED ZEPPELIN MUD SHARK INCIDENT. I think they were just fooling around … the fish wasn’t inside her for that long. All rights reserved. That was his life. It’s still just four ordinary guys offstage. . Pictured from left to right, manager Peter Grant, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, 4th November 1976. In Peter Grant’s case, he insisted on being paid in full and he always got the money because he was 6’ 3” and at his worst weighed around 300 pounds. Robert Plant also told me saw it. If anything, this report is more disturbing than Cole’s. Peter worked on the idea that if you looked after the artist, the music would follow and everyone would be very creative and sells lots of tickets and records and they’d all make money. “Right place, right time. News, advice and insights for the most interesting man in the room. Rob Hughes They Had Bad And Odd Hotel Manners. You weren’t going to argue with him. Thank you for signing up to Classic Rock. Get InsideHook in your inbox. That in and of itself was quite a rarity. Mud Sh-sh-shark. (Photo by G Morris/Mirrorpix/Getty Images), The book jacket for “Bring It On Home: Peter Grant, Led Zeppelin, and Beyond–The Story of Rock’s Greatest Manager” by Mark Blake. Daily Beast: Led Zeppelin’s Controversial Legacy: Thievery, Underage Groupies and the Mud Shark Incident Carwreckedbangs: Aleister Crowley, Jimmy Page and the Curse of Led Zeppelin Disgraceland is a podcast about musicians getting away with murder and behaving very badly. It's easily the most infamous story of rock 'n' roll decadence in history. Evening Standard/Getty Images. I think by doing it, he was able to maintain this aura around the band and that’s why they sold so many concert tickets and full-length records. While this anecdote of music lore might not be as infamous as Led Zeppelin’s notorious “mud shark incident,” it does hold a place in the annals of legendary Rock and Roll escapades, and it happen right here in Weird NJ on this day 45 years ago. He built a wall around them and you had to get through him to get to Led Zeppelin. Clearly, she was having sex with members of the band or the crew or whomever while chained up. Helping them to main a mystique. He was a hustler from South London. For those new to this particularly sordid episode, here’s a brief recap. Please refresh the page and try again. It's free. “It’s impossible to imagine them as a band starting out right now,” Blake said. It says much about the public’s appetite for such stories - what Gittins refers to as “the whole outlaw aspect of being a rock‘n’roll band on the road” – that this particular tale had withstood the decades, in several conflicting variants. Mud Sh-sh-shark. . He had a lot of what we call ‘front.’ He had a lot of charm, a lot of cheek, he was aggressive. By One of the perks of staying there was that guests had the option to fish off their balconies into the water below. “It never got made but it was ongoing for years. Appice had previously told her that Mark Stein had camera gear, prompting her to rush in and declare: “I want to make a movie with you guys.” She was, noted the drummer, very high. It was not Led Zeppelin but Vanilla Fudge FZ: That's right, you heard right, the Secret Word for tonight is Mud Shark! “He was a very proud grandfather when he died. Visit our corporate site. It was his idea and he put it together and brought the others in. I don’t think Peter Grant did but obviously, everyone heard about it.”, As shocking as a story like that might be, it’s exactly the kind of tale Blake had to look into and conduct interviews about while researching Grant, who is often acknowledged as the “fifth member of Led Zeppelin.”, To paint a picture of Grant, it was important for Blake to “cut through all the mythology” and see if the stories going around the industry were true or false. It was unheard of at the time.”. “They’re both very different people. At that point in time, it was a cash business. After taking advantage of this, and hooking a shark, the band as well as road manager Richard Cole and members of the group Vanilla Fudge, enlisted a particularly daring groupie. Believe it or not, she was a nice girl.”, Led Zeppelin Albums Ranked From Worst To Best – The Ultimate Guide. Referring to Hammer Of The Gods, Robert Plant told the NME in 1985 that Cole’s recollection of many events was “permanently distorted one way or another” after years of booze and drugs, adding that “he got paid a lot of money for talking crap.” Similarly, much of Cole’s autobiography was dismissed as nonsense by Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, As time went on Robert Plant became more of a focal point within the group as the lead singer does and started writing more songs. He knew it was time to move and he did. That turned out to be the right thing. However lurid it might be, it’s also cushioned by an enduring nostalgia for what is generally viewed as the golden age of rock. F eminism and rock music have always had, at best, a spotty relationship. He looked after his grandkids because he was good at babysitting. . What was life after Zeppelin like for Grant? (Photo by Gijsbert Hanekroot/Redferns), Led Zeppelin manager Peter Grant at a party for Rod Stewart and the Faces at The Greenhouse in Los Angeles, Calfornia. “It’s long gone,” confirms Appice. What it took at that time was to let them go away and be creative and get on with what they wanted to do. The most infamous and downright sickening tale of sex-on-the-road in rock ‘n’ roll history is the story of the mud shark. After taking advantage of this, and hooking a shark, the band as well as road manager Richard Cole and members of the group Vanilla Fudge, enlisted a particularly daring groupie. It was based on Vanilla Fudge’s testimony, recounted to the Mothers when the two bands bumped into each other at Chicago airport just after the Seattle festival. PPcorn.com. In it, the band’s road manager, Richard Cole, says that he and John Bonham caught a number of fish from the window of their hotel room (the … Despite leading in some ways a dissolute life, Carmine has never really been a big drug-taker or big drinker, so his memory’s intact. “Led Zeppelin then proceeded to stuff pieces of shark into her vagina and rectum.”. Before too long the groupie lay naked on the bed, “bucking and screaming with pleasure”, as Cole started whipping her with the mud shark. The first person that came in was Peter and then they got the others. While on tour, Led Zeppelin and the lesser-known band Vanilla Fudge stayed in the hotel, which at the time, allowed guests to fish out the window of their room, directly into the bay. . Rock band Led Zeppelin at the UK premier of the concert film 'The Song Remains The Same'. And that was considered normal at that time in that world. FZ: THE MUD SHARK DANCING LESSON! These are different times, for sure, but there remains a solid market for, as Gittins puts it, “an element of ‘guilty reading’. Mark: Wait a … Was it a fish or a shark? . And of course with the Mud Shark Secret Word is the Mud Shark Arpeggio . . He traveled with his band and went on tour with them which was unusual for a manager. As with the shark tale, it’s not something that would fly these days. The incident, in particular, involved the members of the band, pieces of a mud shark, and the genitalia of a … He couldn’t be further removed from how it was in the Zeppelin days. Did it even happen at all? His maxim towards Led Zeppelin was always about putting the band first which was an unusual policy to have at that time because a lot of managers believed that the artist worked for them. (Photo by Martyn Goodacre/Getty Images). “He was aggressive but he was also very forward-thinking. . All Rockstars abused Hotel rooms at one time or another. The legend: While staying at the Edgewater Hotel in 1969-a hotel that allows guests to fish from their room balconies-Led Zeppelin caught a mud shark and then proceeded to use it sexually on a bound groupie. It’s just four blokes who happened to get together and get lucky and have some chemistry and create this amazing music. It’s good to have them written down as a solid reminder of what shouldn’t be allowed nowadays, I suppose.”, Meanwhile, those waiting for filmed evidence of The Mud Shark Incident shouldn’t hold their breath. What was Grant’s crowning achievement while running Led Zeppelin? Sign In. All the while, Stein’s camera was rolling. You will receive a verification email shortly. 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