CARTEL DIRECTS AGAIN AS ‘GHOST DOG’ HITS THE BEACH After two hours, Bittaker prompts Norris to strangle the girl. When he sees no witnesses, Bittaker sprays Mace from a squirt gun at her face. Um your comment was stupid the entire comment idiot they all werent hitchikers cindy was snatched and shirley he frequented the resturant where she worked the 2 other girls was just to trusting one hitched hiked do your research even if not you could be your daughter neice friends or family that make the one mistake or walk pass and get snatched. But the girl was still breathing until the wire snapped. LUST AND DEATH AT PROJECT MIRANDA got nothing to lose. death house, Disguise of Sanity, Dr. Ronald Markman, Forensic, Halloween, Lawrence Bittaker, Lethal Injection, Michael Cartel, Mike Cartel, Psychiatrist, Roy Norris, San Quentin, serial killers, serial murder, THE MURDER MAC SNUFF TAPES She remained under his legal guardianship until she could become independent. I for one, cast my vote for the medieval “pear” combined with drawing & quartering. They didn’t have internet. From the court transcripts of the Bittaker-Norris Halloween tapes: shit if that person has an(a)? Bittaker, who was less moved by the girl’s tears tried to kill her but told Norris it was a lot tougher than on television. They would remain naked, chained, tortured and forced into sex acts. Or do my method with the shank and crucify with knives stolen from kitchen. These two are among the worst serial killers I’ve ever studied and I whole heartedly agree with Steven Kay’s sentiment that if the death penalty is ever appropriate this was the time. He fashions a coat hanger around her neck, tightening with pliers as Bittaker had always done. He is one of the few people who knows Odd sees the dead but he does not know all of Odd's secrets. THE MURDER MAC SNUFF TAPES Odd is an optimist seeing the good in most individuals despite his troubling life; he fears going anywhere with a large population because it would interfere with his "simple life"--he would be overwhelmed by the volume of dead in a large city like Los Angeles. While in jail, Bittaker asked an inmate to draw a picture of a girl on the cell wall, then he said to draw a coat hanger and pair of pliers under the figure. F**k you. Remember Me Please stop it! Bittaker told a judge reviewing his probation that prison was like home and he might kill if released. Little is explained about Robertson directly. During Roy Norris’ trial, his parole officer testified that Norris “never exhibited any remorse or compassion about his brutal, hideous behavior towards the victims … the defendant appears compulsive in his need to desire to inflict pain and torture upon women…(Norris) can realistically be regarded as an extreme sociopath, whose depraved, grotesque pattern of behavior is beyond rehabilitation.”. like them who gets (get) off on others misfortune should have no opinion not simply agree to the terms of law its (is)? '[1], The unnamed writer was confirmed in November 2010 to be American filmmaker Stephen Sommers, who also handled the directing. It’s pretty sad and dangerous, because those women think they’re impervious to assault because they’re just so smart. Three years later the state of California will gamble that Larry Bittaker had finally been rehabilitated. Pingback: The Sadistic Halloween Slaying of Shirley Lynette Ledford | Sword and Scale™, Pingback: The Sadistic Halloween Slaying of Shirley Lynette Ledford – THESPOONFEED. They also bought a camera and tape recorder. In his van investigators find many of the tapes (including the Ledford massacre), although Bittaker allegedly buried the rest of the snuff photos and other items by the Forest Lawn Cemetery. She is she’s clearly the one with “no brain” and also too stupid to know the different between 2017 and 1970. From the court transcripts of the Bittaker-Norris Halloween tapes: “At this point, after Bittaker had forced Shirley to fellate him, repeated sounds of an administered beating, interspersed with loud screams can be heard as Bittaker savagely beat Shirley about the breasts and, to a lesser degree, head. I just hope you’re not delusional enough to actually believe that. Put these bastards in with the general population where they can experience constant fear of being beaten or raped by bigger, badder inmates. Odd finds that he is obsessed with serial killers as evidenced by the files he keeps on them. JOIN BELOW at the GIRL With The KNIFE Two nights later, Bittaker follows a girl into the alleyway of her apartment. With Ledford secure, Bittaker asks Norris to drive while he attacks the girl in the back. The fact that taxpayers are financing their 35+ years on death row & all Bittaker’s ridiculous lawsuits is infuriating. They drive into the San Fernando Valley and pick up attractive Shirley Ledford, just 16, around midnight on Halloween. A CONVERSATION WITH RIVER PHOENIX AND DAN AYKROYD What’s fair is fair. Bittaker then returns the pliers to the tool box. They don’t deserve any special treatment. head when there [sic] getting physically slattered [sic] (.)? Larry could finally feel like a real man (or something) with all those little girls being scared witless. This article is about the novel. The number one place to find free audiobooks. Maybe we did have angels but they were all murdered. Not one of you have it in you to take a human life so please stop embarrassing yourselves on the internet. It really does teach you a lot about what evil is out in this world. More at the NEWS page If you want to post on this wall then kindly re-read, count to ten or put a filter on your emotions before punching Return. The last girl who had the worst torture of all was friendly with Norris as a regular customer at the bar where she worked so probably thought he wasn’t a stranger and wouldn’t harm a girl he saw every day and that everyone knew he knew her, and she probably thought it was safer to go the last mile from her home with someone she knew than to walk in the dark. When Robertson's ghost confronts Odd at his home, he goes into an uncontrollable rage, destroying much of the kitchen. . Norris drives along the Golden State Freeway, then trades places with Bittaker. Norris said that he liked to overwhelm women with “fear and terror” just as they had always done to him. Cry babies in the comments. This country’s judicial system is a joke. Anyone who’s not strong enough physically to fight back “deserves” to be tortured on film. The screams from the tapes were merely “pillow talk” from the girls to him. Omg who says s**t like that? They’re big boys and can take responsibility for their acions. They waited nearly an hour for the girl to get back onto the street, but she knew someone inside and kept taking. I MADE A MONSTER SO MAD HE SUED ME To gather more information about him, Odd uses his gift of supernatural intuition, which his soulmate Bronwen (a.k.a. (D)?doesn’t it make you more pathetic and weak(?) “They” were humble enough to admit their mistake and turn Dewey loose. Robertson then becomes one of the lingering dead and stalks Odd for a short time as a poltergeist. What he didn’t know was that Norris had just been arrested with the purses of all the victims (along with other trophies) in his apartment, and that he was talking loudly to make a deal for his own life. Fug are you trying to say? I have not approved several comments because of their vitriol to other commentators. If anyone deserves the death penalty these two monsters do, but it seems California coddles serial killers and the most evil of criminals. So numerous and outrageous were his nuisance lawsuits that a judge declared him to be a “vexatious litigant,” and no longer allowed to file suits without approval of the court. They should be put into the general population. Now, go to hell where your friends Bittaker and Norris will soon join you, you stupid f**k. Uh some of those girls said “no” when asked to get in the van and smoke dop and they walked on by but then Norris ran out and grabbed them and gagged them and heaved them into the van. Being stupid does not get you to earn a death penalty. Only days out of confinement, Bittaker was already a married man and stepfather of four. Violence is the only language some animals understand. Next morning, Norris asked Bittaker to kill Gilliam fast because she had been cooperative, but Larry wanted the long way of execution, saying “they only die once, anyway.” As with Andreas Hall, he drove the ice pick through Gilliam’s ear as far as it could reach, then strangled her by coat hanger and pliers. Sitting in his motel room, Bittaker fondled bottles of acid he recently bought, preparing for the next adventure. 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No offense, but it is anybodies fault who get themselves killed especially prositutes and hitchhikers, who are basically asking for trouble, and are way too stupid to say no to strangers. So hideous was the tape played in court of Shirley Ledford begging, crying, screaming in agony, with Bittaker commenting and laughing in the background that the defense had a tough job making the jury believe that he was not culpable. It wasn’t fatal,” Bittaker said. In the postscript to the graphic novel, Koontz states that "God willing, there will be six Odd Thomas novels." And now it began. Over nine hundred pages long, this isn’t a quick read, but if you enjoy long studies of sexual obsession and ambition gone horribly wrong, this is the book for you. Holy War – If war can be holy, anything goes. This site has a lot of stuff, so CLICK ‘SEARCH’ for your hidden euphoric rage. Library Card Number or EZ Username PIN or EZ Password. Honestly I can see letting Bittaker out on a parole but letting someone like Norris back out there sounds incredibly risky and I believe the psych report said he was no longer a danger to society. Jackie Gilliam just happened to be hitchhiking when the Murder Mack drove by. He was sent to Atascadero State Hospital to get cured and was back on the streets in time to prepare with Bittaker the plans they had discussed in prison. A Special Odd Thomas Adventure (short novel), Odd Interlude, was released on December 26, 2012, and another Odd Thomas: You Are Destined to Be Together Forever on December 9, 2014. 108 beautiful maidens with earth shattering power is unleashed into the Liangshan Continent every 108 years. These monsters are pure evil, there should be a law where they can be fed alive to lions or sharks…..at least the animals would have a good meal, and these kind of monsters would have been some use at the end for feeding an animal !!! Odd leads a simple life because he has to, since he finds the job of speaking to the lingering dead complicated enough. Then Bittaker offered her another ride and the poor girl got in. Let loose again in L.A., Bittaker gets a job as a machinist, lives in a Burbank motel and waits for his prison pal Roy Norris to get out of the joint soon. I read something about Bitaker talking to an interviewer about a Christian couple who regularly visit him and his telling the interviewer “They’re just really good people” and crying as he said it, which would indicate at least that he’s pretty lonely and going a bit mad from loneliness. Do some more research before commenting. the killers in one part and the minor law breakers in the other because lifers (have)? CURES IN SEARCH OF A DISEASE Nah, in reality, if two men in a van want you badly enough, they’ll take you one way or another. Revised from DISGUISE OF SANITY Pepperbox Books ©, “They [Bittaker and Norris] lack the internal prohibitions, or conscience, that keep most of us from giving full expression to our most primitive, and sometimes violent, impulses.” – Forensic Psychiatrist Dr. Ronald Markman (1989). Odd leaves him there in the house where he is assumed to still be haunting. She insists on waiting for sex with Odd until marriage, hoping to make their first time together a meaningful experience and to not bring the memories of her abuse on their bed. Most of these girls declined these 2 psycho f**ktarts advances only to be taken against their will a little further up the road!! Midnight Halloween, Shirley Ledford and friends catch a ride at their fastfood job. Hope that someone doesn’t make statements like that about you one day. The following day, Bittaker was no longer whiney and refused to tell where in Forest Lawn he buried the other snuff tapes and photos. Eckles, Varner, and Gosset killed Robertson's mother (with his permission) and gave him her ears as a trophy. Hindsight is always 20/20 and every human being on earth has been taught to fear those we don’t know who offer a ride or candy or whatever but for some reason a large percentage of these criminally insane psychopaths have an inept capacity to “blend” into society as normal and in a lot of cases trustworthy. Odd Thomas is a thriller novel by American writer Dean Koontz, published in 2003. if possible torture that person for what he’s done to his victims and the suffering of the family’s tragedy(.)? Fry the bastards already! That’s it girl, you better fight. Bittaker then extracted his pliers from the tool box. The murder mack is in the hall of fame somewhere? Bittaker got bored and drove down the highway, slowing as he saw a girl walking by herself. Two months later, on February 24, Roy Norris died at California Medical Facility, Vacaville, California. Her foster father sexually molested her for almost 3 months. They knew too that dead targets tell no tales. Based on your argument, any woman with an intellectual disability who can’t make good decisions “deserves” to be murdered. He also was convicted for rape. He got an apartment but had trouble paying the rent, so he stole a car, committed a few burglaries and got himself back in jail. Stormy's real name is Bronwen, but she prefers to be called Stormy because she thinks this makes her sound less like an elf. They drove into the mountains to find a nice, quiet spot that would snare screams, finding a fire road just above Glendora. Mistakes happen and I get it. Then he actually gets out and re-positions Ledford’s torn corpse with arms and legs spread-eagle, displaying her welted, deeply cut wrists and ankles from her struggle against the binding ropes. – Mike Cartel (who appropriated the phrase from Arthur Schopenhauer in 1818). Figuring that the mountain area where most of the girls were killed was a federal park, he would have a better chance under federal law rather than the state. There was a whole world of hitchhikers for him to finally play out his hungry daydrems. Deputy District Attorney C. Ramsey Randolph called Bittaker and Norris “Two mutates from Hell,” but soon the jury learned that even that epithet was an understatement. After deliberating three days they found him guilty on all 23 felony counts, then heard arguments for the penalty phase of the trial. She is the manager of an ice cream shop and hopes to own a shop of her own some day. These guys are really with the duct tape, the handcuffs and gags etc…so that they usually can’t fight. Following more arrests and time in juvenile jails for burglaries and property crimes, he took a stolen car across several state lines until he was stopped in Missouri. When he agreed to take the witness stand, Bittaker cried, explaining his shock at the deaths of all the girls who he had generously given rides in the Murder Mac. Twenty-one case histories of ‘recreational’ killers who have murdered, through a disguise of sanity, thousands of people. both these monsters should die now…….but not by lethal injection, thats to quick and no pain for them, they should be given a slow and long painful death…..like they gave those poor innocent girls. It all would come back to haunt him. Both of these monsters practiced ruses for getting the girls into the van way beforehand and then practiced how to abduct those who wouldn’t fall for the ruse. CLICK FOR ALL of MIKE CARTEL's ESSAYS Norris drives along the Golden State Freeway, then trades places with Bittaker. Not that any of that matters. Library Card Number or EZ Username PIN or EZ Password. They bought plastic tape, pliers, rope, knives and an ice pick, with other scream-makers in a toolbox. Bittaker is arrested and initially charged with assault with a caustic chemical, but the rap gets dropped because Mace is a chemical irritant and not a caustic agent. NOBODY deserves to be brutally assaulted like that. The blood of his victims will cry out against him. Norris drove for two hours as Bittaker mutilated Ledford with pliers and hammer, running the recorder until it ran out of tape. He tried to strangle Cindy but faltered when the girl started crying. Odd is a 20 year old short-order cook at a breakfast joint in Pico Mundo. WE WELCOME PRINCE VLAD AS OUR NEW COLUMNIST fighting for your country but sick bastards like them (Bittaker and Norris)? 57 Comments, Lawrence bittaker should He thought it would be a better way to catch a target, but the chemical agent only makes her scream louder. The medieval Roman Catholic Church conducted a … If you read just a little more on these 2 whackos they had at least 300 practice runs on girls they did absolutely nothing to before they ultimately chose their very first victim Lucinda and proceeded to rape and murder her, compared to their evolution of psychotic torture and barbaric killing methods, in a relatively non-heinous way. A VICTIM is a VICTIM!!!! ), Class Name Caster(キャスター, Kyasutā? Everybody focuses on the killers but not the girls that were killed. The girl enters the sliding door and Norris locks it shut while the driver, Lawrence Bittaker turns the radio loud and heads to Forest Lawn Cemetery. Thank goodness both of them are in hell now. It also has a similar premise to a novel King wrote years later in The Outsider.A writer learns that someone is killing people but then realizes that this is not someone who is a fan, but someone who is part of the writer himself — a character he created in his novels. You are as sick as these murdering psychos. I think prisons should be situated (for)? A FUNNY THING HAPPENED TO ME ON MY WAY THROUGH VIETNAM Now I can’t stand reading about crimes like this anymore as it just gives me the creepiest feelings and I get despaired about the victims. While in prison, Bittaker (like Gerard Schaefer) was having fun suing everyone in sight (for free, of course). He claimed he was raped. He never told his father or mother because he thought that his father would use his son's powers to make himself rich. Varner had killed Robert Thomas Robertson after he found out that Odd had been in Robertson's house and suspected him, he then tried to frame Odd for the murder. Talk about being stupid. With Ledford screaming, “Don’t hit me again!” Norris slams the sledge on her elbow 25 more times. Norris: Yeah! Shirley then emits several high-pitched, prolonged screams and cries of agony as Bittaker alternately squeezes and twists her labia, clitoris, nipples and breasts with the pliers. The novel derives its title from the protagonist, a twenty-year-old short-order cook named Odd Thomas. In order to ‘desensitize’ FBI agents, the Bittaker-Norris audio tapes are unleashed at Academy recruits to show what they may be dealing with when encountering monsters disguised as humans. Exactly!! The screams from the tapes were merely “pillow talk” from the girls to him. The difference is considerable in both bail and possible sentencing. New York Times bestselling author John Grisham takes you to a different kind of court in his first basketball novel.Samuel “Sooley” Sooleymon is a raw, young talent with big hoop dreams…and even bigger challenges off the court. He comes to Pico Mundo surrounded by bodachs and immediately Odd is suspicious of him. I’d love for them to have their genitals crudely twisted off with pliers while ice picks are jammed into their ears & they’re finally strangled to death as they scream & flail like their helpless victims did. Something certainly rings true in the horror thriller It that capitalizes on that common known fear that clowns are creepy annoyances to those that have an intense phobia towards them. MIKE CARTEL’S EASY ROAD TO SUCCESS “She also had to be strangled.” It wasn’t fatal, but not because he hadn’t tried. Women should just stay indoors after sundown or never leave the house without 5 armed bodyguards walking on all sides of them, right? When the girls realized that the van was going away from their destinations, they waited for a moment to escape As the van slowed, Gilliam broke free and ran near a tennis court, Bittaker barely getting a hand on her, no one listening to her screams. Torrance Superior Court Judge Thomas Fredricks confirmed the sentence, then added an additional 199 years, just in case the conviction was ever reduced or reversed. I’m actually a liberal myself but not when it comes to these people. Plus, this happened in the 70s and early 80s, when EVERYF**KINGBODY hitchhiked! He holds the position of Grand Caster(グランドキャスター, Gurando Kyasutā?). When he finished raping Hall, Norris went back down the mountain road for some food, leaving the girl with Bittaker, hearing sharp screams as he left. The three had gotten involved in ritualistic satanism as teenagers and first killed when they were 15 on a "dare." Anyone who’s handicapped & can’t run fast enough “deserves” to be grabbed & raped. He was again denied in 2019. I wrote to Bittaker, and to this day he blames everyone else but told me that he was crying while writing the letter to me about his crimes. They drove into the mountains to find a nice, quiet spot that would snare screams, finding a fire road just above Glendora. For the next 20 years Bittaker was in and out of prisons for assault, burglary and grand theft. “Just kill me!“ are the last sounds on the tape. Investigation of a kidnapping and rape first led detectives to Norris, and Bittaker got arrested later that day. Fungus Man or Robert Thomas Robertson is initially portrayed as the main antagonist. (Screams) Bittaker gladly accepts the lighter charge of being an ex-con in possession of tear gas and walked out of the police station just in time for Halloween. Nothing too fancy, just a toolbox full of medieval agonies to be preserved in screams with a camera and sound recorder. Gilliam was careful who she rode with, but after analyzing blue-eyed, smiling Bittaker and be-speckled, slap-happy Norris, she never thought the men would do any more than carry her across town. On the bus trip from prison back to Los Angeles he got friendly with four children and their mother. Market worker for accusing him of stealing a steak. Both girls wake at the mountain graveyard where they began two days of a very slow death. She should have stayed with her friends though but also this was like the 70s when parents didn’t put the fear of God into their kids. [1], It was announced in February 2011 that Anton Yelchin was cast to play the title role. A silver van follows Ledford for a moment then stops directly in front of her. Otherwise saying stupid things also should…which would not be in your favor apparently…. In the 1970s a lot of teens had not been taught fear of strangers. I just feel so horrible for those girls having been tortured so horribly by those men, I mean for fucks sake that girl’s privates were torn and her elbow was pulverized! Whatever happened, Norris apparently got over his nervous compassion in time to murder the girl and go after the next target. Following the success of the novel, six sequels, Forever Odd (2005), Brother Odd (2006), Odd Hours (2008), Odd Apocalypse (2012), and Deeply Odd (2013), were also written by Koontz. bullshit(.)? Norris said that he liked to overwhelm women with “fear and terror” just as they had always done to him. They weren’t prostitutes, nor were all of them hitch-hikers. Log in with either your Library Card Number or EZ Login. After all,…..these monsters are animals themselves !! Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is a Star Wars video game that takes place between the films Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope. Nora Pennington figures all the wet weather this spring is at least good for business. ), is a Caster-class Servant summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order. I never hear about this psychiatrists getting shit for their horrible decisions, e.g. The first kill opened the door for “learning” how their sick minds reacted to every detail of their crimes and ultimately fostered the “evolution’ of their depravity. A 92-year-old writer has plotted a novel way for his neighbours to come together while staying apart during lockdown. The book, which was well received and lauded by critics, went on to become a New York Times Bestseller. HEY PUT THOSE 2 DEMONS IN A CELL WHERE KNOWN SHANKERS ARE. These girls did NOT deserve any of what was done to them! You in reality can try and escape, but we both know you’re not going to get away. Norris hedged against murder, but eventually agreed to kill her himself as Bittaker held Schaefer in place. The San Gabriel Mountains hide all screams. Bittaker and Norris drive to the street when several neighbors come running. 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